Saturday, May 11, 2013

OUCH!


We are not alone - 

http://www.condoinformation.ca/feedback/boards-of-directors 

3 comments:

  1. Great find by you.Of course, this obviously begs the age-old question.Which came first? The chicken or the egg? I suspect co-ops followed lead of condos in this regard.

    I've long known knew this type of stuff was common in condos. That is precisely why I did not want to move into a co-op to begin with.

    In the area where I live, there are clusters of condos mostly townhouses. I regularly drive by them and I swear that every time, there c/b as many as five or six "For Sale" signs at each one of the condos' entrances. Guess the turnover rate is as high with condos as some co-ops for good reason.

    Article's comments about attitudes of a BOD, managers, funny biz with contractors are all very familiar --- tho I'm not familiar enough with alleged kickbacks or how common they are in co-ops.

    One diff tho is that condo managers apparently need a designation for job not that it seems hard to get. Co-op coordinators are often just as problematic. Problem is endemic if my research is any indicator. They're often semi-literate, controlling types, abusive to residents who don't "fall in line" and grossly overpaid given their education/skill level. Given that coordinators are almost always women, it's a real "old girl's club."

    Of course, they're "protected" by the sectors and they like to think of themselves as untouchable. Sad part is, for a lot of reasons, they often are. If they screw up, get fired or quit one co-op, CHF or local sector will "look after them" with either another co-op or one of the other orgs they control.

    This situation more often than not happens because a BOD allows it to happen out of ignorance or neglect. Of course, too, with condos and co-ops, examples are legion about directors themselves who often "benefit" from their arrangements with managers/mgmt companies.

    And yes, being called a traitor or troublemaker, isolated from most Members if you try to correct things, being threatened with eviction or legal action is all par for the course with Co-op Members too.

    Difference is I know exactly what they're up to and they know it too. So, they're a less likely to try intimidation game with me.

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  2. I would imagine that co-ops came before condos. Way back when when we would tell our visitors what we were going through in co-ops, they'd look at us in bewilderment. Nowadays condo jargon is in everyway usage.

    Isn't it an amazing site though - they even submitted a brief to the Ministry of Consumer Services in 2012 recommending multiple changes to the Condominion Act.

    So many of the issues are the same in co-ops - BODs refusing to answer letters, nor giving members pertinent information, favouritism, cliques, and if they really don't like you, they place a lien on your home and force you to sell.

    Lawyers gravitate to where the money is - with the BODs. Condo owners are often on the receiving end of legal notices which they have to pay for, etc. etc. This is such an informative web site.

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  3. I emailed that website to give them a primer on how condo owners and Co-op Housing Members have similar "difficulties." I guess, it comes under the heading of "Misery loves company."

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